20 Vartag

The 20 VT has become a favorite caliber for me, as I shoot sage rats a lot, and it's just a wonderful accurate round. A member here got me introduced to it over lunch, and said "Doug, you need a 20 Vartarg!" And I said "I do?" and he was right! I'm amazed it's not a SAAMI spec cartridge yet, but you can get dies from a number of makers, but no brass from brass makers, yet.

I make 20VT brass, and sell it on Accurate Shooter, if anyone here is interested. The Classified area is not set up here yet, but I wanted to let fellow members know it's available.

I decided, when I got the rifle that I would learn to make the brass from Lake City, which I had a lot of at the time, and like the brass. It was a challenge for perfect it, but worth it for me. My favorite powders are N120 and RL-7, with Rem 7 1/2 primers. Other powders are good too, but those were the ones that ended up best in my barrel.

My rifle is built on a Sako L46, with a Shilen barrel. I'm curious what others have on here.
So novice wildcatter here, what should my 20 VT neck thickness be? I think mine are to thick and want to turn them but wondering what dimensions I am looking for ?
 
So novice wildcatter here, what should my 20 VT neck thickness be? I think mine are to thick and want to turn them but wondering what dimensions I am looking for ?

After neck turning, all my 20VT brass necks mic .012". My Cooper chamber mic's .234", which is typical for a .20 cal.
A loaded case neck will mic .228", which gives plenty of clearance in the .234" chamber. My Cooper 204 also is a .234" chamber.

So....
.012" + .012" + .204" (bullet) = .228". In a chamber with a neck ID of .234", this gives .006" of neck clearance, or .003" per side. Good clearance for overall safety without inducing any 'squeeze' on the case neck of loaded bullet.

I have a custom 204 Ruger Match rifle with a tight neck chamber of .230". With the above formula, and necks at .012", this gives me .002" of clearance, or .001" per side clearance. Still good for safety, but excellent for top accuracy. With that setup, I must pay strict attention to my neck thickness's.

So to answer your question, shoot for a neck thickness of .012" in your 20VT and you'll be in good shape.

The 204 Match reamer (note the neck @ .230"):

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Standard 20Vartarg (note neck @ .232"):

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With careful handloading, this is typical for my 20VT using two different bullets:



Hope that clears it up for you. :)
 
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After neck turning, all my 20VT brass necks mic .012". My Cooper chamber mic's .234", which is typical for a .20 cal.
A loaded case neck will mic .228", which gives plenty of clearance in the .234" chamber. My Cooper 204 also is a .234" chamber.

So....
.012" + .012" + .204" (bullet) = .228". In a chamber with a neck ID of .234", this gives .006" of neck clearance, or .003" per side. Good clearance for overall safety without inducing any 'squeeze' on the case neck of loaded bullet.

I have a custom 204 Ruger Match rifle with a tight neck chamber of .230". With the above formula, and necks at .012", this gives me .002" of clearance, or .001" per side clearance. Still good for safety, but excellent for top accuracy. With that setup, I must pay strict attention to my neck thickness's.

So to answer your question, shoot for a neck thickness of .012" in your 20VT and you'll be in good shape.

The 204 Match reamer (note the neck @ .230"):

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Standard 20Vartarg (note neck @ .232"):

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With careful handloading, this is typical for my 20VT using two different bullets:



Hope that clears it up for you. :)
Asking because my loaded 20 VT neck od is .232-.233 with Nosler 17 FB brass resized to 20VT, and factory Hornady 204 loaded neck od is .226
 
Asking because my loaded 20 VT neck od is .232-.233 with Nosler 17 FB brass resized to 20VT, and factory Hornady 204 loaded neck od is .226
That is way thicker than I have ever seen on Nosler brass, .229 loaded is what I've seen in the past.
What your coming up with is more Lapua and unturned 20VT from 223 cases.
What are you coming up with fired?
Alot of reamers out there are .232-.233 neck chambers except for some were designed for the Lapua brass.
 
Asking because my loaded 20 VT neck od is .232-.233 with Nosler 17 FB brass resized to 20VT, and factory Hornady 204 loaded neck od is .226

Dave, I'd be very careful with that Nosler 17FB brass at .233", as that chamber is most likely .234". That would mean you only have half a 'thou (.0005") of neck clearance, which some would say is dangerous.

Personally, I'd turn those Nosler necks to .012" and be safe. Your accuracy won't suffer either.
 
The first thing I would do is find out exactly what reamer was used so you know exactly what your neck chamber is if you dont have any fired brass to measure neck O.D
 
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