Thanks for resurrecting these! I’ hoping that you can fond and post the bullet swaging thread by Stephen Perry?
Don't know if this is the info you are referring to but I did find this that Stephen Perry wrote.
https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/bullet-making-newer-stuff.1227219/page-2
Link to all Stephens posts on Accurate Shooter.
https://forum.accurateshooter.com/search/1594938/?c[users]=StephenPerry&o=date
Bullet Making
The Idea
Some people in benchrest feel a need to have control over part of the Sport. The part I wanted some control over was bullet making. After several intense years of benchrest I added up my bullet boxes. In 5 years I had gone through 50,000+ bullets, 22's and 6's. A thought crossed my mind if I invested the same money I would have spent on the next 50,000 bullets I could buy most of my own bullet making gear.
The Equipment
I started with what I could afford. I needed a source for good equipment. Some say don't buy used I say why not. I know several guys that bought all new and sold it all. Now it is used equipment. The guy that bought the stuff has some good stuff at a good savings.
I have bought all my dies and presses from the same guy. No name needed but he is a HOF shooter that has made and shot his own bullets exclusively for over 20 years. He told me when you start making bullets stop buying others. Live with what you make. He was right.
I started with 1 Rockchucker Press and a set of Simonson 6mm dies in 1997. My source picked me out a core seating punch telling me it was a good size. He also told later to get a few others a 1/2 thou over and under. So far I have lived with the first punch.
Since I live 700 miles from my source a lot of time was spent on the phone getting pointers. It helps to have a mentor when learning bullet making. I spent alot of time going through my magazines looking for bullet making articles. I found several good ones in Rifle and PS mags. I will gather them together again and let you know where. A quick one to find is in the Benchrest Shooting Primer by Don Rorschach. Don covers everything here. My 2nd set of dies are Rorschach 22's.
Ideally you would like to have 3 presses one for each die. But I couldn't afford that set-up in the beginning. So for the first 6 years I used one Rockchucker press changing dies and adjusting my ejector for each die. I bought the Rorschach dies in 2001. Now I had 6 dies and 1 press. Lots of bruised knuckles. About this time I had a chance to purchase a set of Walter Caraway bullet boards at a good price. This brought some civility to my bullet making. Now I could go in my library room and fill trays with jackets and drop cores in them without much effort. Speeds up the bullet making operation.
Finally in 2003 my source found me 2 more presses. I skipped the Cactus Shoot for a year to make the buy. My friend Gene DeLoney paid the money and hauled them back for me. I was set 3 presses and 6 dies. Now I have 3 RCBS presses - 2 Rockchuckers and a RCBS A2. Scrub your presses down first before using them, start clean stay clean. Bullet making presses must be modified for bullet making. The rams must be modified to hold the punch. An ejector assembly must be made to eject the core, jacket in core seating, and the bullet. Also the handle as it contacts the press must be relieved to allow the handle to cam over. Walt Berger told me I needed more cam over in my presses at SG 2 Benchrest School last April.
You need a working area for bullet making. Ideally mount all your presses on a steel table. This provides a rigid base and a good clean-up surface. I don't have such. What I do have is a wood box open on 1 end made out of 3/4" plywood with a 1 1/2 front. I use 3/8" aluminum plates under 3/4" wood on my side presses to provide rigidity and mount my point up press directly to my box where I have the 1 1/2" wood. Works great.
Most of the torque comes when I point up the bullets. I bolt my 1st RCBS press on the open end of the box. I mount my core making RCBS press on the right side and my core seating RCBS A2 press on my left side. I have 2 core cutters. I use my CH core cutter for 6 cores and my other for 22's. Actually my custom cutter does both. I have 2 shelves in my box. Here I store jackets, containers, my bullet boards, and that's it.
Tools
One thing I want to stress here. You must have dedicated tools in bullet making. I have a wire cutter that never leaves my box. I use 3/4" open end wrench for my punch holders. I keep a 1/2" wrench for my ejector nuts. I keep a 3/8" wrench for my A2 ejector nuts. A screw driver for my A2 punch holder. You need the correct size Allen wrench for your lock rings. All these are part of your tool kit and should never leave the area.
The Components
All that a bullet is made up of is a lead core and a bullet jacket. Add about 6-8 hrs for every 1000 you can shoot for a month. I have seen lately BR 6 mm bullets are up to $230/thou. Seems like many will keep saying saying bullets are still the best bargain in the benchrest world. Could be but only because of what it would cost to tool up to make bullets. About $5000 new.
To start with you need to buy jackets. You need to buy when they are available. Being on a order list is bad planning unless you have a backstock and are ordering to keep thus. I started out buying a bucket or 2 usually not the same lot. About 5 years ago I got lucky Stu Harvey and I split an order of 50,000. Neither one us needed that many, both of us having a substantial back stock, but the price was right, the jackets were 1's, and timing was perfect. I haven't used any of that order and I don't think Stu has either. Two years later you couldn't buy jackets. Jackets are all bought from J4 initially and later to those they distribute to. A 22 bucket of .705 jackets contains 2200. A 6 bucket of .825 jackets contains 1800.
Lead wire or wire as it's known is not hard to get but why wait and pay more for each 25 lb roll. I bought 8 rolls from Lester years back and still have 9.
Core Cutting
This step is not done by some. Some bullet makers buy formed cores. Others, probably most make their own cores. I make my own cores. To start with a roll, lets say 10 pieces of wire about 30 bullets in each. I pull the length of my top which I cut with my wire cutter, lead is soft. Next roll each piece on a flat table to get them somewhat straight. The next step is my own don't know if anybody uses it, don't care. I take a paper towel spray it with silicone and pull each wire through it before cutting. For 10 wires several towels are needed. I do this because it cleans the wire and leaves a minimal amount of silicone on the cut cores, good for the core forming operation. All my cut cores are dropped into a stack of empty jacket containers. In the top container I place a paper towel in the bottom to keep the cores from bouncing out after I cut them. Cut all the cores in one sitting. I can cut 10 pieces of wire in 20 min. After I cut the cores I weigh them. Cut cores weigh .68lb/100 to make 66 grn 6 bullets. I do this to get an idea how many bullets I can make. I gather the cut cores up on clean paper towels doubled and proceed to the core forming operation.
Core Forming
Now I have my die set to squirt cores. My Simonson has 2 squirt holes. My Rorschach has 3. You need to set your die to get a good squirt. Walt says 3 grains. Now what I do is squirt cores placing them in a new styro cup. Probably take 3 or 4 cups for 10 wires. This goes quick but be careful not to get your finger between the punch and the die it can hurt. If you want weigh the formed cores, .62 lb/100 for my 6mm bullets.
This goes for all your presses set your ejectors with the punch down so that when the punch goes in the die the ejector will push it out each time. Very important nothing needs to get stuck in the die.
Cleaning & De-greasing Cores
This is a necessary step. Different ways same result, clean. First I will go over my way and then a few others.
What I do is I dump all my cores in a cone shaped sieve. Anything that drains will work. Now I dump a good amount of rubbing alcohol on the cores shaking and adding more alcohol. I do this to get all the small pieces of lead and whatever is on the cores. Now I take a medium sauce pan fill it 1/2 full of hot water add a good amount of white vinegar and add the cores. The vinegar cleans the cores and helps in the oxidation. Swirl the cores around several times. Let sit for 20 minutes. Then I drain the cores back into my sieve and flush with water for 5-10 minutes, I use the sink flush hose. This needs to be done to keep the vinegar from continuing the oxidation process. You want the oxidation to make the cores adhere to the jacket but not in excess. After flushing I drop the cores on a towel on my pool deck and let them dry for 20 minutes. If foul weather they will dry inside just slower.
Other ways guys clean cores are chemicals, Coleman fuel, tsp in boiling water, unknown stuff. Clean is clean whatever way you get there.
