i was definitely a 17 caliber day, no wind which is rare around this old desert. does anyone know where i can get an adjustable twist barrel? God knows i need one. the first 2 groups are with Hornady 25 gr hollow points at around 3735 fps. as you can tell they didn't shoot well at all. these bullets were weighed to be within .005 of each other to take any weight variable out of the equation.
as you can tell from the picture some of them are heeling over. the last picture are 20 gr vmax and ( idiot deleted the picture) Berger 20 gr hp, was the same size as the 20 gr vmax. the squares are 1". the 25 gr hp is the same box that the (third picture)17-556 kak was showing a 7 o'clock tail on the target. side note some 20 years ago i had a conversation with walt Berger about that lil tail. He said, (that's the jacket starting to come apart and shed molten lead. he told me to speed them up a little and they wouldn't make it to the target. i did and he was correct, they blew up about 50 yards down range.

and the image with the tail.
as you can tell from the picture some of them are heeling over. the last picture are 20 gr vmax and ( idiot deleted the picture) Berger 20 gr hp, was the same size as the 20 gr vmax. the squares are 1". the 25 gr hp is the same box that the (third picture)17-556 kak was showing a 7 o'clock tail on the target. side note some 20 years ago i had a conversation with walt Berger about that lil tail. He said, (that's the jacket starting to come apart and shed molten lead. he told me to speed them up a little and they wouldn't make it to the target. i did and he was correct, they blew up about 50 yards down range.


and the image with the tail.
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