Winchester 1885 - .219 Zipper Improved - Update

albertacoyotecaller said:
We can import for a fee. Not sure but I think the import fees are still around $250 per line item. Just reading in another thread online from 2025 that Eabco will ship them to Canada, Never held one so don’t know how they feel or how the triggers are etc. always thought it would be neat and easy to chamber some different calibers that aren’t as popular.
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Happy to see TC is building Encores and Contenders again,perhaps the new owner will export them to Canada in an effort to rebuild our relationship with our northern friends. Tariffs be damned. Very happy I was able to get a s/s Lynx contender before all of this went down. May have to get another Encore too. Might check with Marty at Haus of Arms too.
Matt
 
Did someone say 'Ruger No.1'?

I've been fielding my No. 1 Varmint in 223 for some years now. She wears a Canjar single set trigger, and after free floating the barrel and forend assembly, she shoots the Nosler 40gr BT in a steady .3" all day over H335.

I probably could fill my truck bed with ground squirrels shot with this rifle, and it's the only rifle in all my rat shooting years I've ever gone 100 for 100 hits on Skippy and his pals. Happened one day in N. CA on a large alfalfa ranch, a day I'll never forget, and have never been able to duplicate the feat since.





The stock wood on mine is purty nice, but some of the No.1's I've seen have had absolutely gorgeous show-stopping wood.
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
The 1885 low wall always interested me. Same as the Ruger no.1 that I had in 218 Bee but I couldn’t never get the no. 1 I had to shoot that well.

Who else has Single shots in varmint cals? Let’s see some!
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Ive owned a Ruger #1 in 22H, 22ppc ( two of them, both varmint barrel) and a 223 varmint barrel. None of them would shoot close to one moa. I had some custom triggers and tried the various forend floating and bedding, pressure point solutions, no go. I wasted a lot of money on them.
I have a newer Winchester 1885 in 22H that’s very accurate, easy sub one inch.
 
dale06 said:
Ive owned a Ruger #1 in 22H, 22ppc ( two of them, both varmint barrel) and a 223 varmint barrel. None of them would shoot close to one moa. I had some custom triggers and tried the various forend floating and bedding, pressure point solutions, no go. I wasted a lot of money on them.
I have a newer Winchester 1885 in 22H that’s very accurate, easy sub one inch.
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I need to get my hands on an 1885 to try. Would like one in 218 bee
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
A buddy and me were discussing single shots. It’s hard to get contenders and such in Canada or would try that route. Not impossible but not many dealers and then finding the odd calibers are a no go.
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Exactly same in situation in UK; very rare and doubt there’s a single one here in any but a regular caliber.
I had a Contender in 223 cal and the hammer had a switch to turn so you could change from center fire barrel to Rimfire barrels on same action.
Also had an Encore with barrels up to 30-06 and also a front stuffer barrel with it too.
Ken.
 
dale06 said:
Ive owned a Ruger #1 in 22H, 22ppc ( two of them, both varmint barrel) and a 223 varmint barrel. None of them would shoot close to one moa. I had some custom triggers and tried the various forend floating and bedding, pressure point solutions, no go. I wasted a lot of money on them.
I have a newer Winchester 1885 in 22H that’s very accurate, easy sub one inch.
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I've heard this about Ruger #1 & #3, why do some shoot well yet others don't?
 
kiwishooter said:
Does anyone make a stub kit for the Contender?
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Eagle View Arms used to make an excellent kit but I think manufacturing costs got too expensive for sales.
An advert on some of the American forums should turn an unused kit up.
I know it did when I wanted one but that was before Saubier closed the door.
There was a guy called Dave? that used to do lots of different calibers on stubs for his own use.
Ken.
 
kiwishooter said:
I've heard this about Ruger #1 & #3, why do some shoot well yet others don't?
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This is a great question. I worked on a Ruger 77v in 22-250 quite a bit to get it shooing well, sometimes I think it's just luck getting a good barrel not really sure. So far I have been lucky with the few #1s that I've gotten. I always think one day I'll send one of my#1s to that fellow Penrod in Indiana for a top notch rebarrel job, but haven't found one I'd like to use as a donor yet. 😉
Matt
 
Kenbro said:
Exactly same in situation in UK; very rare and doubt there’s a single one here in any but a regular caliber.
I had a Contender in 223 cal and the hammer had a switch to turn so you could change from center fire barrel to Rimfire barrels on same action.
Also had an Encore with barrels up to 30-06 and also a front stuffer barrel with it too.
Ken.
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That's one thing I like aboot the contender is the hammer switch.
I had Bullberry Legacy build me a barrel in 5mm Remington mag rimfire. Which I can also shoot my 5mm Craig with just a flip of the switch.
 
Bullseye69 said:
That's one thing I like aboot the contender is the hammer switch.
I had Bullberry Legacy build me a barrel in 5mm Remington mag rimfire. Which I can also shoot my 5mm Craig with just a flip of the switch.
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I have a 10" octagon barrel in 5mm and have shot Aquila as well as the Craig reloadable rounds. Have always wanted a 14" bull barrel too. Wondering if the new owners of TC might consider making them. Probably not much call,but if they have the tooling...
Matt
 
dale06 said:
Ive owned a Ruger #1 in 22H, 22ppc ( two of them, both varmint barrel) and a 223 varmint barrel. None of them would shoot close to one moa. I had some custom triggers and tried the various forend floating and bedding, pressure point solutions, no go. I wasted a lot of money on them.
I have a newer Winchester 1885 in 22H that’s very accurate, easy sub one inch.
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Last night I read an OLD article in Precision Shooting magazine. The author had just gotten one of the first Hornet #1s. He reported 2" and larger groups. Barrel quality? Good to hear the 1885 doesn't suffer from whatever the problem is.
 
Kenbro said:
Eagle View Arms used to make an excellent kit but I think manufacturing costs got too expensive for sales.
An advert on some of the American forums should turn an unused kit up.
I know it did when I wanted one but that was before Saubier closed the door.
There was a guy called Dave? that used to do lots of different calibers on stubs for his own use.
Ken.
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Ken that was David White I believe you're thinking about. He did a lot of stubs. He rethroated a couple Contender barrels for me. He passed I think before Saubier closed down.
 
ray h said:
Ken that was David White I believe you're thinking about. He did a lot of stubs. He rethroated a couple Contender barrels for me. He passed I think before Saubier closed down.
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Had in the back of my mid that he’d passed but couldn’t remember properly.used to enjoy his threads/posts.
Just need Lowell to chime in now to announce a new stub kit.
The break barrel Bergara (B13 in UK) would be a good single shot to produce one for.
Thanks for the jog Ray.
Ken.
 
dale06 said:
Ive owned a Ruger #1 in 22H, 22ppc ( two of them, both varmint barrel) and a 223 varmint barrel. None of them would shoot close to one moa. I had some custom triggers and tried the various forend floating and bedding, pressure point solutions, no go. I wasted a lot of money on them.
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Maybe I got lucky with my Ruger No.1V. Bought from a neighbor who said "it just doesn't shoot". He was not a handloader, but after the trigger replacement, floating the barrel forend and glassing and a pet load, it turned into a dandy shooting varmint rig. Of course I only shoot my handloads in it, as it's never seen a factory round since coming to me.

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A couple thousand ground squirrels and more than a few rockchucks can't be wrong! Some No.1's DO shoot! ;)
 
Interesting, 40gr bt is on the light side.

Is this potentially a twist rate vs bullet or jump issue with the ones that don't shoot?
 
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