FIRE BALL CASE

[204farr]

Looking for some info on
17Fire ball /mark 4
20VT/
221 fireball

What is you C.O.L and bullet used
17 fb
20 vt
221 fire ball
I have some info on my 20 VT reamer
And 17FB reamer
Just got me a 221 fireball reamer fom ukraine we will see how it work
Mostly worried about 221case and big bullet
I have a few mag box's left for rem 700 but I will probably try something new on this one I have way more equipment now days and good feeding fire balls turn me on!

 

[TheCZKid]

Depending on bullet used, and freebore in the rifle, it will vary, but here's some info that I have used.

17 Mach IV
Nosler 20gr Varmageddon COAL 1.780"
Hornady 20gr Vmax COAL 1.778"
Hornady 25gr Vmax COAL 1.770"
Berger 25gr Varmint HP COAL 1.780"

20 Vartarg
Hornady 32gr Vmax Base to Ogive Length 1.480"

221 Fireball
Hornady 34gr FBHP COAL 1.720"
Hornady 40 Vmax COAL 1.830"
Nosler 40gr BT COAL 1.831" to 1.900"

 

[204farr]

2.150 C.O.L center feed
Sounds like a good starting point for mag length.

 

[Kenbro]

Looking for some info on
17Fire ball /mark 4
20VT/
221 fireball

What is you C.O.L and bullet used
17 fb
20 vt
221 fire ball
I have some info on my 20 VT reamer
And 17FB reamer
Just got me a 221 fireball reamer fom ukraine we will see how it work
Mostly worried about 221case and big bullet
I have a few mag box's left for rem 700 but I will probably try something new on this one I have way more equipment now days and good feeding fire balls turn me on!

Make sure you start with an action for Fireball length cases.
With Rem actions the 223 length action and the Fireball action have the extractor and ejector in the bolt indexed different from each other.
223 bolt drops a Fireball case before it gets to the ejector.
Not sure if Sakos etc work with both case lengths.
Ken.

 

[KevinG]

Make sure you start with an action for Fireball length cases.
With Rem actions the 223 length action and the Fireball action have the extractor and ejector in the bolt indexed different from each other.
223 bolt drops a Fireball case before it gets to the ejector.
Not sure if Sakos etc work with both case lengths.
Ken.

The Sako L461 action works fine with the fireball case.
Here's an O'Brien L461 in 17MachIV.

Kevin

 

[204farr]

Sweet gun I just built a 7prc on L61R
McMillan stock sako are sweet

Sound good I will check on it
17 fireball rem 700 (orignal fireball action )
20 vartarge rem 700 (223 action sako)

221 this gun will probly come of rem 700
6.5 creed action for the doner
I got a few of them kicking around
sako extractor bush bolt face .
thinking of 3d printing center feed mag box case
Like the old A -Bolt removable mag mounted in bdl floor plate pistole spring single stack 5ea might get 7 canoe the floor plate

 

[TheCZKid]

The Remington XP-100 (eXperimental Pistol) and later versions of it, are also very good for any of the 17FB, 20 Vartarg or 221FB, as they were a the original 221 Fireball gun.

 

[Kenbro]

The Sako L461 action works fine with the fireball case.
Here's an O'Brien L461 in 17MachIV.

Kevin
View attachment 678

Is that the gun he shot the bear with, Kevin?
Ken.

 

[Kenbro]

The Remington XP-100 (eXperimental Pistol) and later versions of it, are also very good for any of the 17FB, 20 Vartarg or 221FB, as they were a the original 221 Fireball gun.

The Remington XP-100 (eXperimental Pistol) and later versions of it, are also very good for any of the 17FB, 20 Vartarg or 221FB, as they were a the original 221 Fireball gun.

And I think they used the Remington 600 Rifle action.
Ken.

 

[KevinG]

Is that the gun he shot the bear with, Kevin?
Ken.

Ken........

Nope........the big bear was shot (2 shots) with an O'Brien 17 Magnum, by their bush pilot Butch Vent.

Kevin

Here he is....

 

[Eggman30]

Sweet gun I just built a 7prc on L61R
McMillan stock sako are sweet

Sound good I will check on it
17 fireball rem 700 (orignal fireball action )
20 vartarge rem 700 (223 action sako)

221 this gun will probly come of rem 700
6.5 creed action for the doner
I got a few of them kicking around
sako extractor bush bolt face .
thinking of 3d printing center feed mag box case
Like the old A -Bolt removable mag mounted in bdl floor plate pistole spring single stack 5ea might get 7 canoe the floor plate

Keep us updated on the 3d printing of your mag box , this sounds like it could work

 

[Rick in Oregon]

Kevin, I remember that story and the photo from long ago. Sure is good to see it still out there for newbies to see firsthand.

"Kids, don't try this at home!"
Just because you could, doesn't mean you should.